MinutesDatabase SIGThursday 24 February 2005, Kyoto International Conference HallMeeting commenced: 2:10 pm Chair: Xing Li The Chair introduced the session and explained the agenda. Contents
Xing Li, CERNET Action db-18-001: Proposal for establishment of an IPv6 IRR to be referred to the mailing list for detailed discussion of the framework and implementation. Action db-17-002: Proposal for IRR mirroring policy (prop-003-v002) to be returned to the Database mailing list for further discussion. Action db-17-001: Pending approval at each remaining stage of the policy proposal process, APNIC Secretariat to implement the proposal to protect historical records with an APNIC maintainer (prop-018-v001). Action db-16-002: Secretariat to implement proposal "Privacy of customer assignment records" (prop-007-v001) in three months. Toshiyuki Hosaka, JPNIC Presentation [pdf] The presenter gave an overview of the resource statistics currently published by the RIRs and noted that no assignment data from within allocations was included in the statistics. The speaker also highlighted difficulties collecting assignment data from the APNIC Whois Database since the implementation of the privacy of customer assignments policy. Implementation of the privacy policy has affected the ability for researchers to assess the actual consumption rate of addresses. The speaker proposed that all assigned portable and assigned non-portable database records should be collected by APNIC and published as statistics without any data to identify the assignments. The speaker presented an example of a possible format for the statistics, but left the implementation details to the Secretariat. The presenter outlined the benefits of publishing assignment statistics. Statistics could be useful when assessing address policy proposals in the future. The statistics could also be useful as a tool for measuring the deployment rate of IPv6. The presenter noted that the proposal would not conflict with privacy of customer assignments policy. Implementation of similar statistics gathering at the NIRs would be at the discretion of then NIRs. However, it was explained that the NIRs' decision to implement similar statistics reports would have an affect on APNIC assignment statistics since the assignment data would be incomplete without NIR assignment data. Questions and discussion Action items Sanjaya, APNIC The presenter reported on the completion of the project to hide customer assignments in the APNIC Whois Database. The proposal to perform this project was first presented at APNIC 17 and was implemented last year. The speaker explained that the motivation for developing the policy was privacy issues driven by both member/customer concerns and legal considerations. The speaker explained how members could update private customer records via MyAPNIC and explained the new tools created to help members update private assignment information. The speaker reported that a script is currently being developed to allow members to update private assignments without needing to access MyAPNIC. The presenter noted that while there is more assignment data in the private registry than in the public whois database, some ISPs have chosen to keep their assignment data in the public database. The speaker reported that there had been some issues with historical resource holders affected by the policy. In addition, there had been feedback that the removal of assignment data had led to a reduction in important statistical information previously available from the database. However, it was noted that this issue was addressed by JPNIC’s proposal discussed earlier in the SIG. Questions and discussion Action items Sanjaya, APNIC The presenter discussed the reasons for the policy and the implementation process. The speaker reported that feedback was received that the notification time prior to implementation was too short. The speaker noted that there had been overlaps between the lame delegations project and protection of historical resources policy. To help networks with lame delegations for historical resources, APNIC now allows networks to make a one time change to their reverse DNS data without being subject to the historical resource protection fee. Questions and discussion Action items Sanjaya, APNIC The presenter gave an overview on progress to date on the implementation of the proposal for an IPv6 routing registry (prop-025-v001). The speaker summarised the proposal originally made by Toyama Katsuyasu to develop a framework for an IPv6 IRR. The speaker noted that the implementation project is not completed, but is underway. The speaker reported that since APNIC had an existing IPv4 IRR, the service would be extended to include IPv6. The RPSLng specification will be used. The speaker explained that some changes would be needed to existing IRR attributes to make the transition to an IPv6 IRR. The presenter concluded by stating that the IPv6 IRR should be available by the end of April. Questions and discussion Action items George Michaelson, APNIC The presentation provided an overview of RPSLng and an update on the status of the CRISP WG at IETF. The speaker reported that the IP address reg to PS is a little behind the intended schedule, but is underway. The speaker noted that there are now CRSIP-related RFCs available for CRISP on IRIS, CRISP requirements, DREG schema, and IRIS over BEEP. The presenter explained that historical address space has made it more difficult to find the authoritative source for some resources, so extra work was needed to resolve the issue. The speaker reported that the WG developed a dchk protocol to support rapid detection of name availability with lower overheads, which could be useful for IP regs as well as the domain regs. The presenter summarised some of the future directions for CRISP development. For example, CRISP is currently a query only protocal, but since registration is about data management as well, there is a need to consider EPP. Planning for this integration will happen will throughout 2006. The speaker reported that whois and CRISP will run as duel services throughout 2006. He reported that the WG next needed to discuss client software that could read the data. The speaker also identified a need to assist people make the move from whois queries to CRISP query formats. The speaker reported that more CRISP developments would be presented at APNIC 20. Questions and discussion Action items Meeting closed: 3:15 pm Minuted by: Sam Dickinson Open action items
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